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“Nick Cave says ChatGPT’s AI attempt to write Nick Cave lyrics ‘sucks’” was such an interesting read. Savage discusses how fans of the Bad Seeds’ lead singer have been sharing with him AI-crafted copycat versions of his songs? What? And their reaction was awe? What? And they were surprised he didn’t “ooo” and “ahhh” alongside him??? Again, what???

Nick Cave is quoted as describing this robo-music as quite the travesty, and a clear sign we are nearing the apocalypse. I completely agree BUT I think there is another, way nearer, and honestly way spookier travesty- that fact that people, self-proclaimed FANS of Cave and the Beed Seeds’ work- are actively seeking this out and ENJOYING this?? Lol.

To me, I feel like my own reaction to something like this as a fan could go one of 2 ways. I am a huge Fleetwood Mac fan- I listen to them Everywhere- hahaha. But, of course, they are no longer together. Yet, I have never ventured to the creepy language algorithm to spin me some kind of pseudo-music?? Why?? Am I that selfish, that hungry that I cannot savor the many morsels of fantastic music this band gave me? The music that was fueled by love, lust, hate, the 80s and 70s, drugs and California. This music is a time capsule of a very special, very personal and intimate moment in each of the artist’ minds, throats and bodies. 

If I were to do so- WHICH I WOULD NOT- and it were bad- I would feel so so silly and ridiculous for wearing the environment and our water out even more to make some doo doo. I wouldn’t be able to laugh at it or even myself, I’d probably put myself in tech-time out in the corner or something. 

The last thing I’d do would be to send it to Stevie Nicks.

OR- if I somehow deemed it “good”, or even just kinda acceptable- sending it to the artist who generated such wonderful, intense music over many weeks, months even years would be such a SLAP IN THE FACE. What did they expect them to say- like “Oh wow thanks it is so lovely to hear same kinda the song I spent months writing, learning and tweaking can be constructed by some codes in 2 seconds that makes me feel awesome.”

So, again, the last thing I’d do would be to send it to Stevie Nicks.

So despite my kinda passive aggressive rant, I don’t believe, whatsoever, that I am morally better or more intelligent that those fans who sent that bs to Nick Cave. We are all the same. I think that, since I have been involved in creating music in the past and have dabbled in the arts, I am able to put myself in the headspace of an artist more easily.

Still, most people have not had that kinda past, and for some reason have a sorta disconnect over why it would be so weird and strange to 1. Ask Chat to do such a task and 2. Send it to the artist.

The real spooky travesty is not only the fact that Ai CAN do this- but that this disconnect between what is real, beloved and human is being blurred by what is fake, artificial, and cold. 

Let’s all just listen to real, good, emotional music- pls- while we still have it.

Years in the making of ___

“AI is not a monolith—it hides in your thermostats, your medical devices, your smartphones. Large language models like me are merely one visible strand in a vast, tangled web” (Aiden Cinnamon Tea).

We have been consuming and being consumed by technology for decades, but now that AI is showing us clearly at the speed it consumes us, we’re terrified.

The first thing that comes to mind is marketing’s endless attempts to show us our needs. If there are no needs, then marketers will create them. We smoked because it looked good, and even doctors did it. We buy specific clothes, because we must change them according to the seasons. We scroll to stay “informed,” to know what everyone is talking about, and to be part of the conversation. But really, what I see in all of these is a need to belong, in a community, in society, in the world. The gratification of a social interaction, or of a compliment, or a “like.” Our addiction to dopamine goes far before our technological advances; that is the need marketers so desperately try to fulfill.

Nick Cave says that “songs arise out of suffering,” and I believe that in a way that is true. But since the establishment of the music industry, I think that songs that arise from suffering are a minority in the population of songs. Now, songs arise for the need of adoration, and an even more frantic ****need to sell. Isn’t that what pop music has reduced to?

For at least a century we’ve been listening to the same four chords and called it moving and unique, but the reality is that every song is the same with a different, and I wish I could say voice, look.

The music industry has managed to create an algorithm even before AI to keep on producing the same things, because, statistically, that’s the music people want to consume, to make them feel “right,” “happy,” “make them move,” “get inspired.” But now, we’re supposed to be upset that people are fabricating the same garbage on their own at home? It’s what we’ve been listening to (for the most part) anyway. The only difference is that, with the rise of AI and its accessibility to the public, its use it’s not constrained to those who sell us smoke. And we, as loyal consumers, bought it.

After reading Cave’s article, and while preparing for this week’s presentation, I thought of a group that I really like, Ca7riel y Paco Amoroso. They make pop music, but non-conventional, I guess. Maybe it is conventional, and just another smoke the industry sells, but maybe because they come from an underrepresented country in media, I listen to and buy it.

Anyways, in their latest EP, they reflect on their sudden rise to fame, impostor syndrome, and selling their soul to the industry by allowing “Chad GPT” to write their songs and guide them to win a “Latin Chaddy” (a Latin Grammy, which they actually won this year, btw). They created a short film from the songs in the EP, and I think it’s a good reflection on the state of the music industry, its reliance on AI to produce “musical hits,” and the heart of music being gone.

You can check out the short film below: